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Castor Bean Plant
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Lindamct - Posts: 748
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- Location: Lindsay, Ontario Zone 5
Linda, try T&T seed. Looks like they still have some.
http://www.ttseeds.com/PHP/nav2.php?search=CASTOR+BEAN
http://www.ttseeds.com/PHP/nav2.php?search=CASTOR+BEAN
Lyn
AB, Zone 3A
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AB, Zone 3A
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“Those who say it can't be done are usually interrupted by others doing it.” ` James Arthur Baldwin"
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Eeyore - Posts: 11189
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- Location: AB, Zone 3A
the real reason they have been banned is that they have been used to engineer biological weapons...ricin is one of the most toxic biological substances...here is a quote for you
It has been estimated that gram for gram, ricin is 6,000 times more poisonous than cyanide and 12,000 times more poisonous than rattlesnake venom. A dose of ricin weighing only two millionths of an ounce (roughly equivalent to the weight of a single grain of table salt from a salt shaker) is enough to kill a 160 pound person.
In 1978, a Bulgarian dissident, Georgi Markov, was assassinated in London after being pricked by a ricin-tipped umbrella. Ricin causes a slow and painful death through blood poisoning and a breakdown of the circulatory system. There is no known antidote for ricin poisoning. Even before the tragic terrorist plane crashes into the Trade Center Twin Towers in New York, some airports hand-inspected umbrellas packed in carry-on luggage.
Following the Gulf War, UN investigator teams (UNSCOM) discovered that Iraq was purifying ricin for possible use in biological warfare, along with anthrax (Bacillus anthracis), botulism toxin (Clostridium botulinum), gas gangrene (C. perfringens), and aflatoxin (Aspergillus parasiticus). From: Facts on File News Services (13 Feb. 1998).
I managed by fluke to find a package of seeds this year at a walmart...must have been from old stock. They don't inform people of the real reason these seeds are now banned in North America...but it is due to terrorist threats.....I dunno...but I just think they are pretty plants.
It has been estimated that gram for gram, ricin is 6,000 times more poisonous than cyanide and 12,000 times more poisonous than rattlesnake venom. A dose of ricin weighing only two millionths of an ounce (roughly equivalent to the weight of a single grain of table salt from a salt shaker) is enough to kill a 160 pound person.
In 1978, a Bulgarian dissident, Georgi Markov, was assassinated in London after being pricked by a ricin-tipped umbrella. Ricin causes a slow and painful death through blood poisoning and a breakdown of the circulatory system. There is no known antidote for ricin poisoning. Even before the tragic terrorist plane crashes into the Trade Center Twin Towers in New York, some airports hand-inspected umbrellas packed in carry-on luggage.
Following the Gulf War, UN investigator teams (UNSCOM) discovered that Iraq was purifying ricin for possible use in biological warfare, along with anthrax (Bacillus anthracis), botulism toxin (Clostridium botulinum), gas gangrene (C. perfringens), and aflatoxin (Aspergillus parasiticus). From: Facts on File News Services (13 Feb. 1998).
I managed by fluke to find a package of seeds this year at a walmart...must have been from old stock. They don't inform people of the real reason these seeds are now banned in North America...but it is due to terrorist threats.....I dunno...but I just think they are pretty plants.
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murphy - Posts: 400
- Joined: Mar 30, 2008 2:52 pm
- Location: Barrie, Ontario
I suggest here is absolutely no reason for considering the Castor Bean as being invasive in our Northern Climates, frost immediately kills all vegetation, and if some nitwit wants to use it for a weapon, there is no shortage of supply.
India is the world’s leader in castor oil production, but commercial production also occurs in California and the southern United States, Australia, Brazil, Venezuela, Morocco, Taiwan, South Africa, Thailand, Haiti, Belgium, Germany, Holland, Peru, China, Argentina, Mexico, Paraguay, Ecuador, and Ethiopia. Worldwide over 500,000 metric tons of castor oil are produced annually. Castor oil makes up about 50% of the weight of the seeds.
Ricin is incredibly toxic. As little as 0.5 mg (the amount contained in several seeds) can kill an adult. One seed can kill a child. We are not the only sensitive animals. Four seeds will kill a rabbit, 5 a sheep, 6 an ox or horse, 7 a pig, 11 a dog, but it takes 80 to kill a duck. Ricin has been investigated for its potential use as an insecticide. Intact seeds may pass through the digestive tract without releasing ricin.
Finally, we grow many plants, both indoors and outdoors, that are poisonous. In terms of growing Castor Beans as ornamental plants, however, common sense should prevail. If the flower clusters are removed from the plant as they appear, no seeds will be produced, and the risk of accidental poisoning can be minimized.
Panic not.
India is the world’s leader in castor oil production, but commercial production also occurs in California and the southern United States, Australia, Brazil, Venezuela, Morocco, Taiwan, South Africa, Thailand, Haiti, Belgium, Germany, Holland, Peru, China, Argentina, Mexico, Paraguay, Ecuador, and Ethiopia. Worldwide over 500,000 metric tons of castor oil are produced annually. Castor oil makes up about 50% of the weight of the seeds.
Ricin is incredibly toxic. As little as 0.5 mg (the amount contained in several seeds) can kill an adult. One seed can kill a child. We are not the only sensitive animals. Four seeds will kill a rabbit, 5 a sheep, 6 an ox or horse, 7 a pig, 11 a dog, but it takes 80 to kill a duck. Ricin has been investigated for its potential use as an insecticide. Intact seeds may pass through the digestive tract without releasing ricin.
Finally, we grow many plants, both indoors and outdoors, that are poisonous. In terms of growing Castor Beans as ornamental plants, however, common sense should prevail. If the flower clusters are removed from the plant as they appear, no seeds will be produced, and the risk of accidental poisoning can be minimized.
Panic not.
Zone 5 Brantford,ON
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Durgan - Posts: 1184
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- Location: Brantford, ON Canada
I don't want to get political on a gardening forum...but since when do politicians make decisions based on common sense. I have been told by many many suppliers last year that they were now banned from selling them...reagardless of the reason.
I go to mexico a couple of times a year and there they are ditch weeds and you see them growing everywhere.
I go to mexico a couple of times a year and there they are ditch weeds and you see them growing everywhere.
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murphy - Posts: 400
- Joined: Mar 30, 2008 2:52 pm
- Location: Barrie, Ontario
I find it odd that T&T seeds is selling them if they have been banned. One American site said they reserve the right not to supply them out of the country but no indication that they were banned.... In fact a google search has turned up no such information....
Linda, I guess I assumed they were red when I ordered them.... Oh well, they'll be pretty anyway.
Linda, I guess I assumed they were red when I ordered them.... Oh well, they'll be pretty anyway.
Lyn
AB, Zone 3A
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“Those who say it can't be done are usually interrupted by others doing it.” ` James Arthur Baldwin"
AB, Zone 3A
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“Those who say it can't be done are usually interrupted by others doing it.” ` James Arthur Baldwin"
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Eeyore - Posts: 11189
- Joined: Nov 14, 2006 10:47 pm
- Location: AB, Zone 3A
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