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Postby dj_backq » May 19, 2008 2:59 pm

Hi think DE is alright because it's a mechanical killer and only works against soft bodied pests.

I'm really worried about the new products that they are using in the US, looks like OMRI will approve just about anything these days.

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Postby Joe Mota » May 19, 2008 9:25 pm

Sorry about the silly question but, what do you mean by DE?
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Postby dj_backq » May 19, 2008 9:35 pm

Diatomaceous Earth

... and it's not a silly question, I only find out about this last fall. :)
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Postby Joe Mota » May 20, 2008 7:52 am

Okay thank you kindly.
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Postby OGrubber » May 20, 2008 8:00 am

Well, just because OMRI approves it, doesn't mean it will be approved by every Certifier. Further, if you are being certified for export then you also have to comply with every importing country's standards which won't necessarily recognize the OMRI stamp.

And, you can still choose not to use whatever does get approved. The idea is to prevent problems from happening, rather than fixing it after the fact. Overuse or widespread use of any product, approved or not, can't be a good thing in the long run. IMHO.
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Postby dj_backq » May 20, 2008 8:49 am

I agree with you, I totally beleive in prevention and good soil quality. What I don't like is that it still opens the door for growers who prefer conventional methods to use these products excessively on organic labeled goods.

Do you mean that goods imported in Canada and labeled organic cannot be grown using these products if they are not approved here?
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Postby OGrubber » May 20, 2008 9:07 am

dj_backq wrote:Do you mean that goods imported in Canada and labeled organic cannot be grown using these products if they are not approved here?


As of this coming Dec [2008] yes, that is my understanding. The Canadian standards will be finalized and in place. Who will monitor this, as produce/products are imported though, I don't know.
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Postby dj_backq » May 20, 2008 11:40 am

I've read alot about the organic regulations becoming federally regulated in december. Alot of my peers who are certified under MCOG (Maritime Certified Organic Growers) are worried that their certification will not get acredited in time for that deadline.
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