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Re: Tree/leaf identification

Postby Dumbo » Aug 13, 2012 5:22 am

Since I read leaves like this are the sign of a hybrid, I looked up if some sort of hybrid white mulberry exists, and it does.

Per http://www.treecanada.ca/tree-killers/w ... lberry.htm, in Ontario, this tree is hybridizing with native red mulberries. So I guess that explains the weird leaves.

But, again, I can't match the leaves with even the hybrid.

See any "white hairs" under the leaves if you look very very closely?
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Re: Tree/leaf identification

Postby Ian66 » Aug 13, 2012 9:12 pm

I have looked through all my reference books and this plant has me stumped as well....must be an exotic of some kind....

I would suggest that you post these pictures on UBC website....there are some very experienced and keen horticulturalist there that will know what this plant is....

http://www.botanicalgarden.ubc.ca/forums/index.php

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Re: Tree/leaf identification

Postby Dumbo » Aug 14, 2012 6:41 pm

The more I look into it the more I am also leaning towards mulberry. Seems the age of this tree (not just being a hybrid) will produce leaves like this, and the light coloured leaves are a sign of a red mulberry (or white I forget now).

So I think my final answer will be as others have state, A mulberry. But I'm not leaning towards a white mulberry. I'm leaning towards a red-white mulberry hybrid.

Try the link Ian gave you. Lots of botanists and nature type people there. They may give you a better reply, or confirm other peoples replies.

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Re: Tree/leaf identification

Postby growitall » Aug 14, 2012 6:42 pm

Morus alba has extremely variable leaves... which is what the Wiki article was trying to convey.
Here's one varation:
http://www.arizonensis.org/sonoran/fiel ... _alba.html

You can scroll through these photos and sites to see the variability:
http://www.google.ca/search?q=morus+alb ... igLorYD4DQ
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Re: Tree/leaf identification

Postby Dumbo » Aug 14, 2012 7:05 pm

growitall wrote:Morus alba has extremely variable leaves... which is what the Wiki article was trying to convey.

I must have missed that.

But going by this (if this is correct) http://forestry.about.com/od/treeidenti ... _lobed.htm, it doesn't leave much choice.

And as stated, apparently a young mulberry (and the hybrid) tree will give all the weird leaves and then for some reason and somehow the leaves will then become more uniform w/ age. So it also seems to be a maturity thing with this tree.

But, some of those leaves had 8 lobes. I have not to date found any mulberry with 8 lobes. Everything states 6 max. So this throws me off.
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