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Sinus Problems- update

Postby LeeInEdmonton » Oct 17, 2012 10:46 pm

Well I have been guzzling apple cider vinegar for about 3 wks twice a day & it certainly keeps my frontal sinus's nice and clear with no discomfort usually experienced with saline wash/sprays. However, it has no effect on clearing the eustation tubes which drains fluid from the middle ear. This can in my case cause loss of hearing, humming in the ears & when you can hear- sound distortion. To deal with this I have purchased an ear popper which deals with the eustation tubes. You use it twice a day & it will take 7 to 11 weeks to restore your hearing to what it was, eliminate sound distortion & humming in the ears. I have been using the ear popper a few days more than 3 wks & have some improvement already in that the sound distortion is reduced allowing greater use of my hearing aids. The humming is also reduced to where it is now faint & not noticable during the day activities. Given this Iam more optomistic that I will beat the problem. At least it has allowed me to stop using the prescription nasal spray & to me that is a very big plus.
Hope my nagging on this topic is not too annoying to my cyber friends.

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Re: Sinus Problems- update

Postby Katherine » Oct 18, 2012 1:12 pm

YAY! Not annoyed at all, delighted is more like it. This sounds so great for you.

My DH is slowly going deaf, with horrendous ear issues and constant sinus problems. He was a scuba diver for many years, and his hearing is at about 50% now. He is 52. WHAT is an ear popper and where do you get it, Lee?

How much do you dilute the cider vinegar?

Im am so glad you are getting somewhere. It must be very frustrating.

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Re: Sinus Problems- update

Postby LeeInEdmonton » Oct 18, 2012 6:38 pm

Katherine: Google http://www.earpopper.com & a fair amount of info comes up. I printed a page & as Myrt & I were going to the doctor anyhow, I took the printout & the Doc thought it just might do the trick. I got mine at Rexall Pharma Plus however Shoppers Drug Mart & London Drugs are listed as outlets. You might shop a bit for example Shoppers price was $150.00 vs Rexall's at $135.00 hence there can be a variance. My initial reaction was sheeeesh that's expensive then to put it into perspective I realized that I had already spent more than this over the 4 yrs I have been dealing with the problem on the perscription nasal spray, plus trying saline sprays. I checked out decongestives & the possible side effects listed were horrible ie: liver & kidney damage so shied away from that. The risk is that some of the problem could be nerve damage rather than eustation tubes not draining properly hence the ear popper may not be effective. I decided, considering the 4yrs of trying to deal with the problem that the risk was worth taking & indications are that maybe I'm winning that bet. My hearing is now better than it has been for better than a year.
There is some humor in this in our home. I decided that I wanted to measure what my hearing level was actually doing so I selected constant household noises and assigned
a value between 0 & 10. If I could barely hear Myrt that was a 2. If hearing better but comprehension the pits a 4. Better yet when comprehension improved a 5. The fridge in the kitchen. a 6, traffic passing on the front street a 7. You get the idea. I then made a chart with 0,2,4,6,8,10 lined increments on 1/4" graph paper. Across the top
in each square the days of the month. This allows me to assign a value when I get up in the morning & any improvement or regression that takes place on that day is also plotted with the dots connected producing a graph of sorts. This tells me whether an improvement is taking place & whether stabalization will result. For example my hearing may hit an 8 but I will not plot anything higher than an 8 unless the sound distortion or humming disappears & if they both do then I will hit 10 which will reflect a hearing level prior to 4 yrs. ago when the sinus's first started acting up. If I get to 10 that will be when stabalization becomes important hence what I will have to do to keep it at a 10. Anyhow hope this gives you & your husband something to think about which of course is part of the decision process. Good Luck.

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Re: Sinus Problems- update

Postby LeeInEdmonton » Oct 18, 2012 6:44 pm

OOOOP's....double posting. Sorry about this.

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Re: Sinus Problems- update

Postby LeeInEdmonton » Oct 18, 2012 6:49 pm

Katherine: Re apple cider vinegar 1 tablespoon to 8 oz. of water twice a day. Most large grocery stores carry apple cider vinegar...mine is a product of Heinz.

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Re: Sinus Problems- update

Postby Katherine » Oct 18, 2012 7:05 pm

Thank you Lee, this is extremely helpful. And yes 150 bucks is chicken feed compared to the cost of all the other stuff we try to solve this problem. Bruce has horrendous sinus headaches too.

I got a real charge out of your hearing matrix. So I gather Myrt can be heard across the Moors of Edmonton. OR perhaps this is also an importance value. In which case, I dont know why poor Myrt is only given an importance value of 2. :) Anyway, thanks so much for taking the time to describe this. I will put this in front of Bruce (with hand signals) when he gets back. He actually went to the doc today and he gets Nasonex from the doc, which I am nervous about.

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Re: Sinus Problems- update

Postby davefrombc » Oct 18, 2012 9:47 pm

I don't know if this will help or not, but I have a trick I use to clear pressure in my eustation tubes. It involves muscles in my neck and rear of my tongue .. I can't explain just what muscles, but there is a way of opening the tubes where they join the throat so by breathing in and out I can actually put pressure into , and pull it out of my eustation tubes. I used to use that trick to keep my ears clear when I was SCUBA diving. It allowed my to go down as fast as I wanted and clear my ears constantly as descending without needing to touch my mask or any other mechanical help it also allows me to sit here and pressurize/depressure my eustation tubes and ears.. If you can learn the trick you don't need an "ear popper". I wish I could tell you just how to do it .. I was never able to teach my diving buddies it, but it is doable.. Try tensing the muscles in the back of your tongue and see if you notice any popping sound in your ears .. When you do , those are the muscles to use .. Practice and you will find it becomes second nature to do to clear your ears....... But be careful , if your ears are badly plugged , you can pressurize them and it hurts if you do it too much and it won't relieve right away . I'm also one that has sinus problems, that go right back to childhood and hearing loss.. Some of it genetic , but a lot of the loss is work history related.
Good luck on finding the trick of clearing ears without an expensive popper .
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Re: Sinus Problems- update

Postby Heidi S » Oct 18, 2012 10:24 pm

Wow, that is interesting, Lee!

My now 19 yr old son has struggled with his ears since 18 months of age. He has had tonsils and adenoids removed, tubes in ears twice and endless antibiotics for infections. He always has some fluid in his ears, and doesn't hear well at all. Yet in the audiology tests, he does fine. But in loud ambient noise settings, ie. school, gyms and other sport facilities etc. he has horrible hearing. One ENT told us he just had bad eustation tubes - shaped wrong somehow.

Now that flu and cold season is lurking - I am expecting a return to the earaches and misery. We may just have to have a look at this contraption!
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Re: Sinus Problems- update

Postby LeeInEdmonton » Oct 18, 2012 11:41 pm

Hi Katherine: It isn't poor Myrt who has been scored a 2. Instead it's Lee's lousy hearing that is scored 2. Sinus problems can cause headaches as well as toothaches
plus the hearing problems. About 30 yrs.ago I contracted Meneire's (?) disease which in my case caused extreme virtigo followed by up-chucking & the condition lasted almost 10 yrs. The virtigo would strike without warning. A common result is the right ear goes nearly deaf & the left ear considerably reduced. Hence I sure did not need sinus problems affecting my hearing. My history re Meneire's is what had me worried that I may have nerve damage which would be another bag of worms however, I don't think so now or my hearing would never recover which it does. For the last 2 years my hearing levels have been going up & down like a yo yo. With nerve damage the hearing would essentially diminish until I become stone deaf.
Dave has a point. I find that I can since getting the "popper" swallow & pop my ears for several hours after using the popper. But longer than that & Iam unable until I have used the popper again.
While my right ear is almost dead I have aids for both ears. There is however just enough life left in the right ear that with the aid it provides balance. Namely if I hear a siren I can tell what direction the sound is coming from. My hope is if I can get rid of the sound distortion & the sinusitis(humming) I will be able to have the aids recalibrated for improved performance to more closely match my natural hearing levels.

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Re: Sinus Problems- update

Postby LeeInEdmonton » Oct 19, 2012 12:18 am

Hello Heidi: Doctor's including Specialists such as ear,nose, & throat guys can only guess at what will work for the individual patient & this is the problem because one patient's result may differ from another despite the similar symptoms. The specialist my Doctor sent me to had me take audiology test plus front and sides Xrays. I would comment the audio test went off fine but then of course it was digital & her voice came through clear as a bell. The same will happen when I use a phone which automatically switches to what they call a telephone channel which helps considerably.
But if the distortion caused by fluid in the middle ear is bad even that channel doesn't help. In this situation loud noices are amplified even when not wearing the aids & during such periods I can hear every bump in the roadway when driving the car.In fact if I give a little cough during such times even the sound of the cough is distorted. I would imagine your son finds a noisy gym painful. Does he get the flu shot ? Since retiring 16 yrs. ago I have been getting the shot every Oct. & have never gotten the flu since or even a bad cold.The thing I like between the popper & the apple cider vinegar no drugs are involved & my hearing this past week has been improved.
I don't know what else I can tell you. The thing is you have to evaluate what anyone tells you, doctors included, & try to determine what may work for your son.
I do hope you find a solution for him.

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